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	<title>Comments on: Gay-Marriage Ban Struck Down: Why Your Company Should Care</title>
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		<title>By: Luke Visconti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luke Visconti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Feb 2012 14:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[William C. Duncan is the director of the &quot;Marriage Law Foundation&quot; and a man consumed over the definition of other people&#039;s sexuality and their access to the legal construct of marriage, which as implemented by the state, has no religious standing whatsoever. I don&#039;t agree with his assessment of this ruling being &quot;judicial supremacy&quot;. The judicial branch of our government is equally powerful with the legislative and executive branches. &quot;Judicial supremacy&quot; or its cousin phrase &quot;activist judges&quot; are commonly used by people who are frustrated in their inability to impose their worldview on everyone else, but those phrases are only relevant with people who share that worldview. In this government, the people cannot violate the Constitution via referendum. The voters may not trump civil rights. It is the judiciary&#039;s responsibility to strike down laws that violate the Constitution. Your religion is protected in its view of marriage being the providence of men and women - but you may not impose your religious views on the state - if granting same-sex couples the same civil rights as hetero couples does not damage the hetero couples&#039; rights (as was proven in the lawsuit that led to this decision), then you can call it &quot;judicial supremacy&quot; if you wish, but I call it America. If you want a theocracy, go live in one.

Regarding the second part of Mr. Duncan&#039;s quote, I&#039;ll remind you that there were religious leaders in the early 1800s who wrote books on the Biblical justification for slavery - later in that century, other religious leaders wrote books on why women shouldn&#039;t have the vote. It goes on and on to show why the First Amendment - which forbids the establishment of a state-run religion AND protects religion from the state - separates the United States from governments that leverage religion to suit the implementation of their angry oppressions on people who do not share their views. Our country was not perfect when founded - when enslaved Black people counted for 3/5ths of a human being - and only then to send more representatives to congress for the enslavers - and when women were not given any rights whatsoever. These are things that have changed over time - and Mr. Duncan is disingenuous when he selectively forgets our nation&#039;s progress and asserts that rights for LGBT people are somehow ones that &quot;no one knew or would have believed were there.&quot;

In short, you&#039;re better off speaking for yourself when posting here, because I think that allowing others to do your talking is an indication that others doing your thinking as well. Other publications may let that go by passively, but it&#039;s not going to happen here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William C. Duncan is the director of the &#8220;Marriage Law Foundation&#8221; and a man consumed over the definition of other people&#8217;s sexuality and their access to the legal construct of marriage, which as implemented by the state, has no religious standing whatsoever. I don&#8217;t agree with his assessment of this ruling being &#8220;judicial supremacy&#8221;. The judicial branch of our government is equally powerful with the legislative and executive branches. &#8220;Judicial supremacy&#8221; or its cousin phrase &#8220;activist judges&#8221; are commonly used by people who are frustrated in their inability to impose their worldview on everyone else, but those phrases are only relevant with people who share that worldview. In this government, the people cannot violate the Constitution via referendum. The voters may not trump civil rights. It is the judiciary&#8217;s responsibility to strike down laws that violate the Constitution. Your religion is protected in its view of marriage being the providence of men and women &#8211; but you may not impose your religious views on the state &#8211; if granting same-sex couples the same civil rights as hetero couples does not damage the hetero couples&#8217; rights (as was proven in the lawsuit that led to this decision), then you can call it &#8220;judicial supremacy&#8221; if you wish, but I call it America. If you want a theocracy, go live in one.</p>
<p>Regarding the second part of Mr. Duncan&#8217;s quote, I&#8217;ll remind you that there were religious leaders in the early 1800s who wrote books on the Biblical justification for slavery &#8211; later in that century, other religious leaders wrote books on why women shouldn&#8217;t have the vote. It goes on and on to show why the First Amendment &#8211; which forbids the establishment of a state-run religion AND protects religion from the state &#8211; separates the United States from governments that leverage religion to suit the implementation of their angry oppressions on people who do not share their views. Our country was not perfect when founded &#8211; when enslaved Black people counted for 3/5ths of a human being &#8211; and only then to send more representatives to congress for the enslavers &#8211; and when women were not given any rights whatsoever. These are things that have changed over time &#8211; and Mr. Duncan is disingenuous when he selectively forgets our nation&#8217;s progress and asserts that rights for LGBT people are somehow ones that &#8220;no one knew or would have believed were there.&#8221;</p>
<p>In short, you&#8217;re better off speaking for yourself when posting here, because I think that allowing others to do your talking is an indication that others doing your thinking as well. Other publications may let that go by passively, but it&#8217;s not going to happen here.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WOW, some these folks really do not like ss marriage.
It would be fun to compile a list of donars and speak to them thru the voice of email and to notify all the GLBT folks in those areas of CA and Utah.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW, some these folks really do not like ss marriage.<br />
It would be fun to compile a list of donars and speak to them thru the voice of email and to notify all the GLBT folks in those areas of CA and Utah.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No matter what side of the battle you&#039;re on, it&#039;s a loss for everyone because all that this ruling proves is that...well, William Duncan says it best, so I&#039;ll let his words do the talking:

‎&quot;The basic point to make about this decision is that it very effectively accomplishes one thing: It elevates the idea of judicial supremacy as the primary constitutional value. It is more important, the court is saying, to preserve the conceit that the courts can read into state and national constitutions rights that no one knew or would have believed were there than to allow voters to come to a different conclusion about the basic laws by which they will be governed.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No matter what side of the battle you&#8217;re on, it&#8217;s a loss for everyone because all that this ruling proves is that&#8230;well, William Duncan says it best, so I&#8217;ll let his words do the talking:</p>
<p>‎&#8221;The basic point to make about this decision is that it very effectively accomplishes one thing: It elevates the idea of judicial supremacy as the primary constitutional value. It is more important, the court is saying, to preserve the conceit that the courts can read into state and national constitutions rights that no one knew or would have believed were there than to allow voters to come to a different conclusion about the basic laws by which they will be governed.&#8221;</p>
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