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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 11:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article !!!!!!
I&#039;m astonished to hear Americans from a country built by immigrants try to &quot;legelize&quot; immigration. Immigration is geographical, not legal issue. As for  a right to become a citizen.....first law allowed only  white male to become citizens, later the privilage was extended to  other races and finally also women. The only leftover from this law  is used today as &quot;they are braeking law&quot; argument.  The difference between law and justice is quite obvious. And police is  enforcing  law, not justice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article !!!!!!<br />
I&#8217;m astonished to hear Americans from a country built by immigrants try to &#8220;legelize&#8221; immigration. Immigration is geographical, not legal issue. As for  a right to become a citizen&#8230;..first law allowed only  white male to become citizens, later the privilage was extended to  other races and finally also women. The only leftover from this law  is used today as &#8220;they are braeking law&#8221; argument.  The difference between law and justice is quite obvious. And police is  enforcing  law, not justice.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 13:53:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s my understanding that any Social Security benefits collected from people using false identities or fraudulent Social Security numbers is diverted into an Earnings Suspense File. Does this money ever mingle with &quot;legal&quot; Social Security monies? In other words, who benefits from these funds? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s my understanding that any Social Security benefits collected from people using false identities or fraudulent Social Security numbers is diverted into an Earnings Suspense File. Does this money ever mingle with &#8220;legal&#8221; Social Security monies? In other words, who benefits from these funds? </p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 14:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The term &quot;illegal immigrant&quot; is not offensive.  It is appropriately descriptive.  However, the term has gained a negative connotation; therefore, terms like &quot;unauthorized migrant&quot; and &quot;undocumented worker&quot; are often used.  These terms are also appropriately descriptive for they concern a person&#039;s legal status.
These terms, of course, do not define a person&#039;s worthiness to &quot;life, liberty and security of person&quot; as described by Article three of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights by the United Nations.  No matter the legal standing of a person, that person is still entitled to his human rights.  With that said, a person that is native to another country is also responsible for following the laws of his host country to include the laws defining that person&#039;s authorization to visit, work, and live within the host country.
Any American of reasonable mind could agree that people are expected to conduct themselves with respect to a nation&#039;s laws.  With liberty comes the responsibility to maintain that liberty to include respecting the rule of law as well as recognizing the humanity of an individual despite his legal standing.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The term &#8220;illegal immigrant&#8221; is not offensive.  It is appropriately descriptive.  However, the term has gained a negative connotation; therefore, terms like &#8220;unauthorized migrant&#8221; and &#8220;undocumented worker&#8221; are often used.  These terms are also appropriately descriptive for they concern a person&#8217;s legal status.<br />
These terms, of course, do not define a person&#8217;s worthiness to &#8220;life, liberty and security of person&#8221; as described by Article three of The Universal Declaration of Human Rights by the United Nations.  No matter the legal standing of a person, that person is still entitled to his human rights.  With that said, a person that is native to another country is also responsible for following the laws of his host country to include the laws defining that person&#8217;s authorization to visit, work, and live within the host country.<br />
Any American of reasonable mind could agree that people are expected to conduct themselves with respect to a nation&#8217;s laws.  With liberty comes the responsibility to maintain that liberty to include respecting the rule of law as well as recognizing the humanity of an individual despite his legal standing.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m getting worn out hearing that &quot;immigrants are doing the work that Americans won&#039;t do&quot;.  You&#039;re exactly right.  In areas where there is an abundance of immigrants, they will do the work cheaply.  This pay seems unfair to us but it&#039;s not for them.  For them, it&#039;s good money.  As a matter of fact, a lot of it gets sent home.  America&#039;s economy does not benefit from this money.  Maybe Americans are spoiled and we&#039;re used to making more money?  How are you going to change this mindset?  Go to your boss tomorrow and tell them you want a cut in pay because you think you&#039;re making too much money.
You say they get taxed on their earnings and don&#039;t benefit from it?  Sure, Social Security.  Excuse me, if they are migrant workers and not Citizens, exactly how are they to be paid any benefit? But,they&#039;re traveling on a road, aren&#039;t they?  Maybe on Sunday they&#039;ll go to the park.  Maybe they&#039;ll go to the Library to learn how to become a U.S. Citizen.  A good chunk of the money also goes towards defense spending; you know, that thing that keeps them safe while they&#039;re working?
I&#039;ve traveled the U.S. quite a bit.  I&#039;ve seen Americans in Pennsylvania&#039;s, Ohio&#039;s, Florida&#039;s, Texas&#039;, Alabama&#039;s and Louisiana&#039;s pipe yards and steel mills.  In Idaho, Utah, Colorado and Wyoming, I see Americans working in fast food places, cleaning hotels, working in construction, farming; are these the jobs you say Americans won&#039;t do?  Who works in the dirty coal mines, the oil fields, on the drilling derricks and the wells offshore?  You insult Americans when you say we are unwilling to work hard.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting worn out hearing that &#8220;immigrants are doing the work that Americans won&#8217;t do&#8221;.  You&#8217;re exactly right.  In areas where there is an abundance of immigrants, they will do the work cheaply.  This pay seems unfair to us but it&#8217;s not for them.  For them, it&#8217;s good money.  As a matter of fact, a lot of it gets sent home.  America&#8217;s economy does not benefit from this money.  Maybe Americans are spoiled and we&#8217;re used to making more money?  How are you going to change this mindset?  Go to your boss tomorrow and tell them you want a cut in pay because you think you&#8217;re making too much money.<br />
You say they get taxed on their earnings and don&#8217;t benefit from it?  Sure, Social Security.  Excuse me, if they are migrant workers and not Citizens, exactly how are they to be paid any benefit? But,they&#8217;re traveling on a road, aren&#8217;t they?  Maybe on Sunday they&#8217;ll go to the park.  Maybe they&#8217;ll go to the Library to learn how to become a U.S. Citizen.  A good chunk of the money also goes towards defense spending; you know, that thing that keeps them safe while they&#8217;re working?<br />
I&#8217;ve traveled the U.S. quite a bit.  I&#8217;ve seen Americans in Pennsylvania&#8217;s, Ohio&#8217;s, Florida&#8217;s, Texas&#8217;, Alabama&#8217;s and Louisiana&#8217;s pipe yards and steel mills.  In Idaho, Utah, Colorado and Wyoming, I see Americans working in fast food places, cleaning hotels, working in construction, farming; are these the jobs you say Americans won&#8217;t do?  Who works in the dirty coal mines, the oil fields, on the drilling derricks and the wells offshore?  You insult Americans when you say we are unwilling to work hard.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 15:10:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Us  Americans are hypocrite when it comes to immigration. The immigration system is all about money. Years ago the government noticed that there was millions on undocumented immigrates in the country and there was a process in placed where the immigrant paid money and was able to receive the proper documentation. Some of those immigrants are tax payers and doing jobs that American will not do. The American government also permits people from other countries to do farm work (again work that the typical American does not want to do) they are taxed on their income and they do not get the benefits as American citizen. In reference to the undocumented not wanted. How many times in history have American intruded in other countries. There are two sided too the coin, let flip it and look at both sides.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Us  Americans are hypocrite when it comes to immigration. The immigration system is all about money. Years ago the government noticed that there was millions on undocumented immigrates in the country and there was a process in placed where the immigrant paid money and was able to receive the proper documentation. Some of those immigrants are tax payers and doing jobs that American will not do. The American government also permits people from other countries to do farm work (again work that the typical American does not want to do) they are taxed on their income and they do not get the benefits as American citizen. In reference to the undocumented not wanted. How many times in history have American intruded in other countries. There are two sided too the coin, let flip it and look at both sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 07:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I know a young man, who was pulled over in CA. Had been in CA illegally since he was 4 years old. His citizenship status was found out and he was deported. Was it his fault for being here at four? Once deported he didn&#039;t last a week in unfamiliar territory and was shot and killed during a robbery. Is this justice? Saying your family brought you here as a child, but you&#039;re caught now so go somwhere you have never even been...seems ludricrous and down right wrong...All he knew was his life here...he barely spoke the language there...I do not favor the breaking of laws to enter this country, however some concessions should be made for an individual in this situation. But for now he will be another one of those unrelevant statistics no one else cares about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a young man, who was pulled over in CA. Had been in CA illegally since he was 4 years old. His citizenship status was found out and he was deported. Was it his fault for being here at four? Once deported he didn&#8217;t last a week in unfamiliar territory and was shot and killed during a robbery. Is this justice? Saying your family brought you here as a child, but you&#8217;re caught now so go somwhere you have never even been&#8230;seems ludricrous and down right wrong&#8230;All he knew was his life here&#8230;he barely spoke the language there&#8230;I do not favor the breaking of laws to enter this country, however some concessions should be made for an individual in this situation. But for now he will be another one of those unrelevant statistics no one else cares about.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I personally prefer the term &quot;invader&quot; for our unwanted (permanent) guests. This better captures the fact that these persons have broken in or overstayed their welcome, come with a long list of demands and have no intention of leaving.  I believe this also addresses your concern that such lawbreakers not be called &quot;illegals,&quot; which, as you point out, can be offensive.  Invaders are not really &quot;undocumented,&quot; since they have documents that they use to steal jobs and other goodies.  Do you find this to be a useful substitute for &quot;illegal alien&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally prefer the term &#8220;invader&#8221; for our unwanted (permanent) guests. This better captures the fact that these persons have broken in or overstayed their welcome, come with a long list of demands and have no intention of leaving.  I believe this also addresses your concern that such lawbreakers not be called &#8220;illegals,&#8221; which, as you point out, can be offensive.  Invaders are not really &#8220;undocumented,&#8221; since they have documents that they use to steal jobs and other goodies.  Do you find this to be a useful substitute for &#8220;illegal alien&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, if you don&#039;t mind people coming into this country illegally (trespassing), then I guess you wouldn&#039;t mind if I just barged into your house and made myself at home and helped myself to your stuff.  And I&#039;d be offended if you said that I was there illegally!

I don&#039;t care if the term &quot;illegal immigrant&quot; is offensive.  What&#039;s really offensive is people who couldn&#039;t care less about their own country and don&#039;t mind letting people from other countries invade.  That&#039;s treason!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if you don&#8217;t mind people coming into this country illegally (trespassing), then I guess you wouldn&#8217;t mind if I just barged into your house and made myself at home and helped myself to your stuff.  And I&#8217;d be offended if you said that I was there illegally!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care if the term &#8220;illegal immigrant&#8221; is offensive.  What&#8217;s really offensive is people who couldn&#8217;t care less about their own country and don&#8217;t mind letting people from other countries invade.  That&#8217;s treason!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 23:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please no one use &quot;documented.&quot;  That language is from the left, and reduces all citizens to being &quot;documented.&quot;  They are ILLEGAL.   And should they become &quot;legal,&quot; they will be Post-Entitlement Immigrants, in my opinion.  They will NEVER have come here the way other immigrants did.   That may sound hard.  But that will be the REALITY.  That same thing has happened with Affirmative Action.  These are the people who do everything wrong---but do well under our corrupt system.   Attitudes will always reflect that.   You can&#039;t make REAL LIFE not happen---by just tinkering with words.  Only the left things you can.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please no one use &#8220;documented.&#8221;  That language is from the left, and reduces all citizens to being &#8220;documented.&#8221;  They are ILLEGAL.   And should they become &#8220;legal,&#8221; they will be Post-Entitlement Immigrants, in my opinion.  They will NEVER have come here the way other immigrants did.   That may sound hard.  But that will be the REALITY.  That same thing has happened with Affirmative Action.  These are the people who do everything wrong&#8212;but do well under our corrupt system.   Attitudes will always reflect that.   You can&#8217;t make REAL LIFE not happen&#8212;by just tinkering with words.  Only the left things you can.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 May 2010 14:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Luke...Thanks for the article....it hit home for me.....It is very frightening to read what people who have not been through the immigration process tend to say about allowing immigrants legally into the USA, which by the way, when do you think the US would allow people to come to work as gardeners, cooks, maids or factory workers to legally come into the US.
I am 36 years old and have lived in the US since I was 12. That constitutes 24 years of my life. I became a permanent resident through the NACARA law back in the year 2000; fourteen years of my life I was an &quot;undocumented human being&quot;, for about 5 years of that period I was old enough to work, I did not steal anybody&#039;s identity, I used a made up SSN, like a lot of the people that work in the USA. I paid into SS for all that time and when I became a permanent resident none of it was applied towards my benefits. I was not able to collect on all the withholding taxes that my employer paid on my behalf either.

Every case has its own individual circumstances, I know people that have spend 10 years or more working in the US, contributing to SS, state and federal taxes and when they file their income tax returns they receive a letter letting them know that their SSN does not match to US records, therefore their refunds are reduced to $0.
I wrote all this to say the following: We need an immigration reform. We need those hard working people to receive benefits that they have paid into and deserve. We also need to identify law breakers and make them pay for their crimes. However, we can not accomplish this if we do not have an immigration reform.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Luke&#8230;Thanks for the article&#8230;.it hit home for me&#8230;..It is very frightening to read what people who have not been through the immigration process tend to say about allowing immigrants legally into the USA, which by the way, when do you think the US would allow people to come to work as gardeners, cooks, maids or factory workers to legally come into the US.<br />
I am 36 years old and have lived in the US since I was 12. That constitutes 24 years of my life. I became a permanent resident through the NACARA law back in the year 2000; fourteen years of my life I was an &#8220;undocumented human being&#8221;, for about 5 years of that period I was old enough to work, I did not steal anybody&#8217;s identity, I used a made up SSN, like a lot of the people that work in the USA. I paid into SS for all that time and when I became a permanent resident none of it was applied towards my benefits. I was not able to collect on all the withholding taxes that my employer paid on my behalf either.</p>
<p>Every case has its own individual circumstances, I know people that have spend 10 years or more working in the US, contributing to SS, state and federal taxes and when they file their income tax returns they receive a letter letting them know that their SSN does not match to US records, therefore their refunds are reduced to $0.<br />
I wrote all this to say the following: We need an immigration reform. We need those hard working people to receive benefits that they have paid into and deserve. We also need to identify law breakers and make them pay for their crimes. However, we can not accomplish this if we do not have an immigration reform.</p>
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